What would the country, specifically, the Democratic Party, look like if Black people put ourselves first, like any political demographic is entitled to? What would democrats' messaging look like if they earned Black votes, rather than demanded them? What  policies would have been fought, & what wars wouldn't have been? What compromises would (or would not) be made, if we mattered?

In this episode, host Thomas Giovanni sits down with co-producer and co-host Jorge Navia for a thoughtful, spirited, and (hopefully) informative conversation about the roots of America's sick obsession with guns…..

In this introductory episode, host Thomas Giovanni engages in a vigorous discussion with co-producer and co-host Nana about the fundamental failings of American democracy to earn the continuing support of Black, Brown, and poor people in this country.